Ground (self) Savory

[ThePieMan]

[ThePieMan]

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Hi,
Savoury cotains sage, parsley, ... and can affect the final taste if not in balanced ratio. Any help for use the correct savoury mix.
I usually use this ratio fron internt
4 tablespoons parsley
2 tablespoons dried sage
1 tablespoon dried rosemary
1 tablespoon dried marjoram
1 1/2 teaspoons black pepper
1 1/2 teaspoons onion powder

For 1 kg
460 g parsley
220 g sage
110 g rosemary
110 g marjoram
50 g blak pepper
50 g onion

[ThePieMan]

Hi afhal,
I think we have a misunderstanding. "Bohnenkraut" is the german name for, "Summer Savory" (Satureja hortensis). Summer Savory is one of the herbs suggested as being in the OR. Your, ''savoury mix' does look nice though. 

[Ken_Griffiths]

Afhal,

I've never heard of the Savoury Mix you refer to, are you sure you are not mixing things up with Savory the plant/herb, which is similar to Thyme and part of the mint family. In fact Savory was very popular in the UK in the pre-post WWII period, but it's been superseded today by the herb Thyme, so much so, that it has become difficult to now buy Savory here in the U.K. in our shops and supermarkets. I tend to order my Savory from Marion Kay's website in the US.

There are two types of Savory ... Winter Savory and Summer Savory. See these Wikipedia articles here:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_savory

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_savory

I mention this just in case you may have thought that some recipes and posts were referring to a Savoury Mix, rather than Savory, the herb.

I should add this, just to confuse things a little, the spelling of Savory, the herb, can often be changed to become Savoury and it includes an additional letter 'u' in the middle of it ... it's just a slight spelling difference that the British use. Another unnecessary letter, just for the sake of it!

Anyhow, if I have got things wrong here and you did mean a Savoury Mix of various herbs and spices, then I apologise, but I thought I ought to mention the differences between that and the actual herb, just in case there was some misunderstanding.

Kind Regards...

Ken

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Savory is not very heat tolerant.

[Deleted]

Thank you all for your value explanations. I really misunderstood and confused between the two words. As I am living in Syria we call it (Persian Thyme) and it is rarely to find fresh up on the situations here. I usually use similar thyme instead or combining two type of thyme to get the closest taste.
Thank you again.

[Ken_Griffiths]

Mar 29, 2017 16:45:53 GMT @smallgree said:

Savory is not very heat tolerant.

Extract below taken from the Wikipedia website article for Summer Savory:

Summer savory is a traditional popular herb in Atlantic Canada, where it is used in the same way sage is elsewhere. It is the main flavoring in dressing for many fowl, mixed with ground pork and other basic ingredients to create a thick meat dressing known as cretonnade (cretonade) which may be eaten with turkey, goose and duck. It also is used to make stews such as fricot, and in meat pies. It is usually available year-round in local grocery stores in dried form and is used in varying proportions, sometimes added to recipes in large generous heaping spoonfuls (such as in cretonnade), and sometimes more subtly (as in beans, for which savory has a natural affinity). Summer savory is a characteristic ingredient of herbes de Provence. It is also widely used as a seasoning for grilled meats and barbecues, as well as in stews and sauces.

Summer savory is preferred over winter savory for use in sausages because of its sweeter, more delicate aroma. It plays an important role in Bulgarian cuisine, providing a strong flavor to a variety of dishes. Instead of salt and pepper, a Bulgarian table will have three condiments: salt, paprika, and savory. When these are mixed it is called sharena sol (шарена сол 'colorful salt').

So cooking-wise, even for fried, baked or grilled sausage or chicken etc, Savory, particularly the Summer variety, has proven to be valuable when cooking meats at temperature. There is nothing that I can see that would cause me to exclude the herb from a fried recipe, unless you hold some other information Fred?

[Ken_Griffiths]

The Colonel 'confesses' that he uses the herb Savory in his secret original recipe:



A double bluff, I think.

[sirius]

looking up savory i didnt realise it is a main ingredient in herbe de provence..might have to experiment with that too..

[willy]

What does it mean when a food is savory?
adjective. The definition of savory is food that is salty or spicy, not sweet, or something that is morally acceptable. A spicy sauce that isn't sweet is an example of a savory sauce.

A commercial is not a proof. Neither is a casual statement made by a person not involved in the creation of a dish.

[Ken_Griffiths]

May 6, 2020 14:22:51 GMT willy said:

What does it mean when a food is savory?
adjective. The definition of savory is food that is salty or spicy, not sweet, or something that is morally acceptable. A spicy sauce that isn't sweet is an example of a savory sauce.

A commercial is not a proof. Neither is a casual statement made by a person not involved in the creation of a dish.

In the U.K. ‘savoury‘ food in the terms you describe Willy, is spelt differently, like this...savoury.
The herb savory on the other hand has no ‘u’ in it. I often misspell these things, but in addition to the TV commercial and the comment from Shirley Topmiller, the paisley shaped spotty leaves are visible under a microscope in the mix, but because it closely resembles Thyme (same family member) it cannot be proven conclusively. It does have a distinctive taste though, that I think ‘oozes’ the taste of KFC.

[willy]

CHS wasn't from the UK, and he didn't write the word, he spoke it in an interview, and/or commercial. Not a valid observation my friend.

[doof]

Hi all,

Any recommendations as to where to purchase summer savory in the UK?

I've seen a few online, but unsure of quality and a few don't define whether it is summer/winter variety.

I've seen that it's commonly used in Bulgarian cuisine and refered to as Chubritsa.

Appreciate any tips.

Thanks

[Ken_Griffiths]

May 17, 2020 13:16:32 GMT doof said:

Hi all,

Any recommendations as to where to purchase summer savory in the UK?

I've seen a few online, but unsure of quality and a few don't define whether it is summer/winter variety.

I've seen that it's commonly used in Bulgarian cuisine and refered to as Chubritsa.

Appreciate any tips.

Thanks

Whilst I order mine from Marion Kay and ship it to U.K. (which is expensive) I think you’ll find it online via Amazon.co.uk and other good U.K. dried spice/herb stores online. HTH.