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Post by tctc100fl on Feb 25, 2021 4:29:00 GMT
I have this pressure cooker. For those of you who have been frying up chicken for a while, have you seen anyone mention using this cooker or used it yourself? I searched this section of the boards and didn't see any mention of Presto other than something about the gasket maybe fitting another brand. Presto 01370 Pro 8-quart Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker Review Manual - www.gopresto.com/uploads/downloads/instructions/01370.pdfItem 15 on pg 3: "15. Do not use this pressure cooker for pressure frying with oil." If I had to make an educated guess, you can probably get away with pressure frying in one of these but a Wear-Ever or one of the others is a better option
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Post by btb on Feb 25, 2021 18:23:53 GMT
I have this pressure cooker. For those of you who have been frying up chicken for a while, have you seen anyone mention using this cooker or used it yourself? I searched this section of the boards and didn't see any mention of Presto other than something about the gasket maybe fitting another brand. Presto 01370 Pro 8-quart Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker Review Manual - www.gopresto.com/uploads/downloads/instructions/01370.pdfItem 15 on pg 3: "15. Do not use this pressure cooker for pressure frying with oil." If I had to make an educated guess, you can probably get away with pressure frying in one of these but a Wear-Ever or one of the others is a better option I've used 4 types/brands of pressure fryers over the years before the litigious American experience almost wiped the product out from its domestic use, except most elsewhere in the world. I had recently noted this Presto unit and have been very impressed with it and preliminarily believe it can easily be used for pressure frying. I would like to study that more, but it does look very good. But Presto -- as well as other manufacturers in the U.S. -- cannot say it can be used for pressure frying because their legal Dept. won't let them . . . not that their advice is warranted IMO. Here are facts: (1) In the U.S., all stove top pressure cooking devices must for -- IMO -- unsubstantiated and alleged legal reasons, . . . be called "pressure cookers," and not "pressure fryers." Reason: . . fear of litigation, settlement costs (even with misuse), defense expenses (even with little to no real cases), etc., etc. . . . That does not however mean their devices cannot be safely used for pressure frying, however !! (2) All U.S. based (maybe U.K. also) sellers feel that they must give warnings like that that you mentioned . . . " Do not use this pressure cooker for pressure frying with oil" but not based on any law in existence. There is absolutely no legislation that requires that, however. None whatsoever. But all my junior attorneys that worked for me (but not in the KFC area) would have recommended reciting such "disclaimers" in the hopes to alleviate liability if sued. But the reality is that the case law in the U.S. doesn't support it at all. I'd like to hear from any U.S. based attorney out there to find and recite successful lawsuits that were based on negligent manufacturing of pressure cookers that were used for pressure frying . . . and that resulted in damages. I believe that they are few and far between and that the law in this area is very unsettled . . . except in the minds of junior corporate attorneys. I continue to use my latest Magefesa 10 Quart Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker (really a pressure fryer, as it was called when I bought it) which has served me and my family well for cooking/pressure frying meals of several styles of pressure cooked products for many years (chicken, pork chops, broasted potatoes, etc.). Good luck tctc100fl. I'd like to hear more of your experience with the Presto unit as I think it is really a very high quality unit. I'm in Pinellas West of you and I, too, have rarely experienced any quality KFC store product in recent times. How times have changed.
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Post by justinalias on May 16, 2024 19:48:57 GMT
I have this pressure cooker. For those of you who have been frying up chicken for a while, have you seen anyone mention using this cooker or used it yourself? I searched this section of the boards and didn't see any mention of Presto other than something about the gasket maybe fitting another brand. Presto 01370 Pro 8-quart Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker Review Manual - www.gopresto.com/uploads/downloads/instructions/01370.pdfItem 15 on pg 3: "15. Do not use this pressure cooker for pressure frying with oil." If I had to make an educated guess, you can probably get away with pressure frying in one of these but a Wear-Ever or one of the others is a better option I've used 4 types/brands of pressure fryers over the years before the litigious American experience almost wiped the product out from its domestic use, except most elsewhere in the world. I had recently noted this Presto unit and have been very impressed with it and preliminarily believe it can easily be used for pressure frying. I would like to study that more, but it does look very good. But Presto -- as well as other manufacturers in the U.S. -- cannot say it can be used for pressure frying because their legal Dept. won't let them . . . not that their advice is warranted IMO. Here are facts: (1) In the U.S., all stove top pressure cooking devices must for -- IMO -- unsubstantiated and alleged legal reasons, . . . be called "pressure cookers," and not "pressure fryers." Reason: . . fear of litigation, settlement costs (even with misuse), defense expenses (even with little to no real cases), etc., etc. . . . That does not however mean their devices cannot be safely used for pressure frying, however !! (2) All U.S. based (maybe U.K. also) sellers feel that they must give warnings like that that you mentioned . . . " Do not use this pressure cooker for pressure frying with oil" but not based on any law in existence. There is absolutely no legislation that requires that, however. None whatsoever. But all my junior attorneys that worked for me (but not in the KFC area) would have recommended reciting such "disclaimers" in the hopes to alleviate liability if sued. But the reality is that the case law in the U.S. doesn't support it at all. I'd like to hear from any U.S. based attorney out there to find and recite successful lawsuits that were based on negligent manufacturing of pressure cookers that were used for pressure frying . . . and that resulted in damages. I believe that they are few and far between and that the law in this area is very unsettled . . . except in the minds of junior corporate attorneys. I continue to use my latest Magefesa 10 Quart Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker (really a pressure fryer, as it was called when I bought it) which has served me and my family well for cooking/pressure frying meals of several styles of pressure cooked products for many years (chicken, pork chops, broasted potatoes, etc.). Good luck tctc100fl. I'd like to hear more of your experience with the Presto unit as I think it is really a very high quality unit. I'm in Pinellas West of you and I, too, have rarely experienced any quality KFC store product in recent times. How times have changed. Probably goes with saying, but notice how the Magefesa's lid design looks identical to the "Chicken Express" pressure-fryer used by Glenn and Friends?
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Post by kgp on May 17, 2024 1:46:23 GMT
It's design actually goes back further to Vintage Wear-ever Chicken Bucket Low Pressure Fryer.
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Post by justinalias on May 22, 2024 4:19:27 GMT
Great locking bar design.
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Post by tsskyx on Jun 2, 2024 20:17:13 GMT
Huh, decided to check it out and found that the Magefesa 8 and 10 liters pots are being sold in E-shops around my country (Czechia). I also found the Presto ones in some obscure corners, and sometimes they're labeled as "Tescoma" instead (probably resold). The brand with the largest amount of listed pressure cookers is "Tefal".
But this makes me happy, the fact that I can get my hands on these products if I wanted to. (And they're also much more affordable than Chicken Express.) However, I need to ask, are you guys absolutely sure that they can be used for pressure frying? I mean, I could probably just contact the manufacturers or the E-shops for further info, but given the discussion that happened here, I am inclined to think that the answer is "yes?"
Again, what do you think?
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Post by kgp on Jun 2, 2024 21:46:24 GMT
Huh, decided to check it out and found that the Magefesa 8 and 10 liters pots are being sold in E-shops around my country (Czechia). I also found the Presto ones in some obscure corners, and sometimes they're labeled as "Tescoma" instead (probably resold). The brand with the largest amount of listed pressure cookers is "Tefal". But this makes me happy, the fact that I can get my hands on these products if I wanted to. (And they're also much more affordable than Chicken Express.) However, I need to ask, are you guys absolutely sure that they can be used for pressure frying? I mean, I could probably just contact the manufacturers or the E-shops for further info, but given the discussion that happened here, I am inclined to think that the answer is "yes?" Again, what do you think? They are sold as pressure cookers NOT pressure fryers. Nowhere do you see pressure fryer on the marketing or package. I'm sure if you call them they will tell you "No hot oil." Companies don't want people heating up explosive hot oil in their house. They will leave that to the commercial products that cost thousands of dollars sold to large chicken outlets.
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Post by tsskyx on Jun 2, 2024 22:14:18 GMT
I see. So, what's all this fuss about trying them out then? You're all saying it's just a marketing issue or whatever and are confessing to using them at home. Is it or is it not safe?
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Post by justinalias on Jun 3, 2024 1:34:24 GMT
I see. So, what's all this fuss about trying them out then? You're all saying it's just a marketing issue or whatever and are confessing to using them at home. Is it or is it not safe? If the model of the Magefesa pressure cookers you saw have the same lid locking design as the Chicken Express, you should be fine. I've got the same lid locking design on my pressure cooker and that lid isn't going anywhere. It also has a heavy nylon seal that can be removed for cleaning.
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Post by willy on Jun 3, 2024 1:40:23 GMT
Never answer a loaded question and open yourself to liability.
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Post by justinalias on Jun 3, 2024 4:36:52 GMT
Never answer a loaded question and open yourself to liability. True, let them find out for themselves. I never asked anyone's advice before using a pressure-cooker not intended for pressure-frying. I like to live dangerously.
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Post by kgp on Jun 3, 2024 8:02:27 GMT
The lids that look like Chicken Express is a low pressure cooker 5 to 8 psi unlike what CHS used 10 to 15 psi. I've owned many of the low pressure cookers and used them for frying. I never had a problem but cooking the chicken to the bone was an issue.
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Post by tsskyx on Jun 3, 2024 15:04:15 GMT
I see. So, what's all this fuss about trying them out then? You're all saying it's just a marketing issue or whatever and are confessing to using them at home. Is it or is it not safe? If the model of the Magefesa pressure cookers you saw have the same lid locking design as the Chicken Express, you should be fine. I've got the same lid locking design on my pressure cooker and that lid isn't going anywhere. It also has a heavy nylon seal that can be removed for cleaning. Here's one image. Seems it's true about the lid. Though the e-shop doesn't state what the PSI is.
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Post by hcjr on Jun 22, 2024 23:29:41 GMT
8psi work just fine if you have the correct size bird. An 8Qt cooker will perfectly fit a 2.5-3 pound bird cut up into 9pc. Keel breast, 2 ribs, 2 wings, 2 legs and 2 thighs. The key is finding a true broiler chicken that is 2.5-3 pounds. I have a chicken express 16qt, 4 other “screw down cap” cookers (SEB6qt, 2 Magafesa 8&10qt, pro-selection 8qt), and 2 “twist to lock” cookers both Kuhn Rinkon 15psi 8Qt. All work flawlessly with the correct amount of chicken and cook time/procedure. Also none of them have rubber gasket. Only use silicone.
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Post by dprovo on Jun 23, 2024 15:45:17 GMT
Finding small birds is difficult since most poultry these days are huge and raised with hormones.
Dustin
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