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Post by cascader on May 5, 2021 2:24:45 GMT
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Post by willy on May 5, 2021 16:16:49 GMT
I've used garlic since day one. Onions and garlic are givens in almost every dish, except pastries, ice cream, and hand grenades.
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Post by justinalias on Aug 1, 2024 3:25:56 GMT
Thanks for this, it's very intriguing. I tested this concept today but I used too much dehydrated garlic powder to provide a favorable result. I used 1.5 teaspoons of dehydrated garlic to 1.5 cups flour and the garlic dominated the flavor over everything else. I'm thinking maybe half the measurement will suffice but I need to test that. |
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Post by willy on Aug 1, 2024 4:38:18 GMT
Maybe you needed to use certain ingredients to blend with the umami taste of garlic. If you reduce garlic and not explore other avenues, then you might be passing on an important element and might not ever again entertain its importance.
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Post by justinalias on Aug 1, 2024 6:44:06 GMT
Maybe you needed to use certain ingredients to blend with the umami taste of garlic. If you reduce garlic and not explore other avenues, then you might be passing on an important element and might not ever again entertain its importance. Or I might simply be using too much dehydrated garlic. I'd had favorable results in the past without the garlic but I wanted to test the kokumi effect given the fact dehydrated garlic is listed in the corporate list of ingredients. |
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Post by willy on Aug 1, 2024 16:04:19 GMT
Measure twice, saw once.
The point is, I've seen so many, when the taste isn't quite right, add more of this, or subtract some of that. Then they go on and drift with the same ingredients, adding, subtracting, when they might have had the correct amount all along. Maybe, just maybe, the correct lineup has not be used, and the alteration of the same regular ingredients is just downright stubborn.
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Post by justinalias on Aug 1, 2024 21:35:29 GMT
Measure twice, saw once. The point is, I've seen so many, when the taste isn't quite right, add more of this, or subtract some of that. Then they go on and drift with the same ingredients, adding, subtracting, when they might have had the correct amount all along. Maybe, just maybe, the correct lineup has not be used, and the alteration of the same regular ingredients is just downright stubborn. I don't remember KFC ever having a garlic flavor or aroma to it, so I'm guessing the garlic is in a very small quantity that is meant to create a molecular reaction with the rest of the ingredients. There's an audio clip of CHS speaking about using 10 herbs and spices, and when he added the 11th ingredient he claimed it was the best chicken he ever made. Maybe dehydrated garlic powder was that ingredient. I'm going to give it another test but I'm going to use a fraction of the garlic I used the day before. |
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Post by willy on Aug 2, 2024 20:30:51 GMT
This is my view. I believe garlic, onion, paprika, celery, and maybe tomato powder, were used in the very early renditions of KFC chicken. As those ingredients were gradually reduced and/or eliminated, MSG was used to gradually replace the umami character of those ingredients in the recipe. This change resulted in the taste changing from sweet and savoury to peppercorn dominant. Youngsters today are incapable of researching the OR, as they have no foundation upon which to rely.
To have noticed these changes, one must have eaten KFC during various times in their history. This is why I always ask about age. If someone didn't eat the early KFC, then this discussion is not possible. It's that simple.
I am set on these views and they are the driving force behind my research. When someone comments about a certain taste, my mind automatically wants to query about the time frame.
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Post by justinalias on Aug 2, 2024 21:27:02 GMT
This is my view. I believe garlic, onion, paprika, celery, and maybe tomato powder, were used in the very early renditions of KFC chicken. As those ingredients were gradually reduced and/or eliminated, MSG was used to gradually replace the umami character of those ingredients in the recipe. This change resulted in the taste changing from sweet and savoury to peppercorn dominant. Youngsters today are incapable of researching the OR, as they have no foundation upon which to rely. To have noticed these changes, one must have eaten KFC during various times in their history. This is why I always ask about age. If someone didn't eat the early KFC, then this discussion is not possible. It's that simple. I am set on these views and they are the driving force behind my research. When someone comments about a certain taste, my mind automatically wants to query about the time frame. I used one-sixth of the dehydrated garlic powder in my latest batch and the garlic flavor was no longer detectable. Whether or not it makes a real difference as a flavor enhancer remains to be seen. |
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Post by willy on Aug 3, 2024 18:14:41 GMT
I watch cooking shows all of the time. Nearly every recipe begins with garlic, onion and some type of chili. If KFC originally had that "Universal" taste, then one must ask, "how was it accomplished without garlic and onion and chili"?
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Post by justinalias on Aug 5, 2024 1:31:09 GMT
I watch cooking shows all of the time. Nearly every recipe begins with garlic, onion and some type of chili. If KFC originally had that "Universal" taste, then one must ask, "how was it accomplished without garlic and onion and chili"? I've never known KFC to have a garlic, onion, or chili pepper flavor. Chicken Delight was a different story; I'm sure they used a lot of garlic and onion powder in their seasoning. Maybe the garlic listed in the modern OR version has garlic added as a flavor enhancer? Who knows but it's possible. |
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Post by silver on Aug 5, 2024 1:35:20 GMT
99-X and Grace's don't list garlic as an ingredient. It's not needed. And as has been observed, too much ruins everything.
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Post by justinalias on Aug 5, 2024 11:47:12 GMT
99-X and Grace's don't list garlic as an ingredient. It's not needed. And as has been observed, too much ruins everything. I'm not interested in 99X, and I have no access to Grace's Perfect Blend. I'm interested in emulating the O.R, whether it be the 70s version or the modern day version. |
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Post by silver on Aug 5, 2024 13:26:07 GMT
99-X and Grace's don't list garlic as an ingredient. It's not needed. And as has been observed, too much ruins everything. I'm not interested in 99X, and I have no access to Grace's Perfect Blend. I'm interested in emulating the O.R, whether it be the 70s version or the modern day version. Garlic always appears last, making it least. Perhaps least by a wide margin. As in, it's potentially in there as a ruse. |
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Post by silver on Aug 5, 2024 13:35:41 GMT
If you go back far enough Garlic disappears from the label. Do a search for "One Step Seasoned Breading Mix". I've apparently has the ability to do attachments revoked from my privileges.
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