The Potential Weights for Herbs in a Scaled 10g O.R. Recipe

[Ken_Griffiths]

The views expressed here are entirely my own opinion...

According to the current version of the USDA database and a touch of 'common sense', from everything I know, these are the potential volumes and weights for each herb in the O.R recipe, when it is scaled to a total of 10g, not incl. MSG (assuming the colonel used teaspoon volumes):

Sage can either be: 1 tsp (0.7g) or 3/4 tsp (0.525g).

Basil Leaf can be: 1/2 tsp (0.35g) or 1/4 tsp (0.175g).
Basil (ground) can be 1/4 tsp (0.35g) or 1/8 tsp (0.175g).

Oregano Leaf can be: 1/4 tsp (0.25g) or 1/8 tsp (0.125g).
Oregano (ground) can be: 1/8 tsp (0.225g).

Thyme Leaf can be: 1/4 tsp (0.25g) or 1/8 tsp (0.125g).
Thyme (ground) can be: 1/4 tsp (0.35g) or 1/8 tsp (0.175g).

Savory (ground) can be: 1/4 tsp (0.35g) or 1/8 tsp (0.175g).
There is no Savory Leaf shown in USDA database, but see Thyme (ground)

Rosemary (dried) can be: 1/8 tsp (0.15g) ... I think 1/4 tsp (0.3g is too high).

Bay Leaf (crumbled) can be: 1/4 tsp (0.15g) or 1/8 tsp (0.075g).

Marjoram (dried) can be: 1/4 tsp (0.15g) or 1/8 tsp (0.075g)

I personally see these as being the 'potential, weights that can be used for each individual herb when calculating any 10g O.R. recipe, they can each scale to the Colonel's 100lb barrel exactly in whole and part pounds, but I can't rule out any adjustment made later by the colonel himself to make his recipe precisely fit the 100lb Barrel container, outside of teaspoon volumes/weights.

I have posted this on the kfc11 forum in the herbs section to keep for reference purposes.

Ken

[tony]

another spice weights conversion table, from earlier times
just for comparison: sage is 22 tsp per oz, so 1 tsp weights 28.35/22 = 1.29 g

[Ken_Griffiths]

Tony,

Thanks again .. I love these retro containers. Very nice and it may eventually help me sort our the level of each herb in the O.R. That's what I'm working on at the moment. There's not that much information to go on, but i suspect a corporate mix was involved somewhere during the Colonel's own research in the early days.

[dprovo]

Oct 9, 2016 12:29:07 GMT tony said:

another spice weights conversion table, from earlier times
just for comparison: sage is 22 tsp per oz, so 1 tsp weights 28.35/22 = 1.29 g

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Tony,

What year is this?

Dustin

[tony]

Dustin,

it is from early 1960s, i suppose (no zip codes)

Denver native Fritz Knoebel founded Knoebel Mercantile Company, a bakery distributor, in 1929, and built it into the nation’s largest privately owned food service distribution company. Known as Nobel Inc., it was acquired by Sysco Inc. as a subsidiary in 1982.

[dprovo]

Tony,

What a good photo of it, and interesting the weights. I think some of the items I see weigh differently because some are either dried in leaf form compared to ground, and vice versa.


Durkee's website has a pretty good conversion, it matches the USDA website for the most part.

www.durkeefoodservice.com/spice101.html#conversion

Volume to Weight Conversion Table
The Volume To Weight Conversion Table shows how many teaspoons of a dried herb or spice make up an ounce. This allows you to easily convert from volume to weight. When accurate measurements are required, it is almost always better to measure by weight rather than volume.

Description Tsps./oz.
Allspice, Ground 14.9 oz.
Anise Seed 13.5
Basil, Ground 20.2
Bay Leaf, Crumbled 47.2
Caraway Seed 13.5
Cardamom, Ground 14.2
Celery Seed 14.2
Chervil, Dried 47.2
Chili Powder 13.5
Cinnamon, Ground 12.3
Cloves, Ground 13.5
Coriander Leaf (Cilantro) 47.2
Coriander Seed 15.7
Cumin Seed 13.5
Curry Powder 14.2
Dill Seed 13.5
Dill Weed, Dried 28.3
Fennel Seed 14.2
Fenugreek Seed 7.7
Garlic Powder 10.1
Ginger, Ground 15.7
Mace, Ground 16.7
Marjoram, Dried 47.2
Mustard Seed, Yellow 8.6
Nutmeg, Ground 13.9
Onion Powder 13.5
Oregano, Ground 18.9
Paprika 13.5
Parsley Flakes 94.5
Pepper, Black, Ground 13.5
Pepper, Red Ground 15.7
Pepper, White Ground 11.8
Poppy Seed 10.1
Poultry Seasoning 18.9
Pumpkin Pie Spice 16.7
Rosemary, Dried 23.6
Saffron 40.5
Sage, Ground 40.5
Savory, Ground 20.2
Sesame Seed 10.5
Tarragon, Ground 17.7
Thyme, Ground 20.2
Turmeric, Ground 12.9
Source: American Spice Trading Association (ASTA)

Dustin

[Ken_Griffiths]

Just to assist with the above from dProvo.

One ounce is equal to 28.349523125g. (Often rounded to 28.35g)

Therefore as one example, if we take the ground sage from the table in dProvo' post and divide the number 28.349523125 (or use 28.35 if you prefer) by the amount of teaspoons like this:

28.349523125 divided by 40.5 that equals 0.699988225308642g... that's about 0.7g when rounded up.

So 1 teaspoon of sage is 0.7g.

Just to assist anyone who was not sure how to work out the weights of ingredients in grams from the table shown.

You can also check the USDA database here for ingredient weights per teaspoon... here is the link to the USDA database weight for sage:

ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/288