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Post by kgp on Nov 8, 2021 9:30:51 GMT
Mark from TCK used onion powder in 12 of his 33 recipes. It worked. We found out long ago that onion combined with garlic can cancel out the garlic flavor. Allowing it to go unnoticed. However, the ratio would be 1 part onion powder and half part garlic powder to achieve this. Onion powder in the proper amount can give a fast food flavor without it tasting like an onion burger. Just don't over do it.
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Post by silver on Nov 8, 2021 12:49:29 GMT
Mark from TCK used onion powder in 12 of his 33 recipes. It worked. We found out long ago that onion combined with garlic can cancel out the garlic flavor. Allowing it to go unnoticed. However, the ratio would be 1 part onion powder and half part garlic powder to achieve this. Onion powder in the proper amount can give a fast food flavor without it tasting like an onion burger. Just don't over do it. Do you think Onion was part of the Original Recipe?
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Post by willy on Nov 8, 2021 17:38:43 GMT
I'm taking a serious look at onion. It is one of the main elements of my chili seasoning. Although I use onion, jalapenos and garlic when I cook a batch of chili, the seasoning itself gets a big boost in savoriness with the onion powder. The onion and the garlic are subtle and blend well with the overall flavor.
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Post by Ken_Griffiths on Nov 8, 2021 19:27:34 GMT
On the TCK forum there was some evidence that onion powder ‘might’ be in the colonel original mix, which I presented in relation to the ingredients shown in the KFC Corp. Chicken Pot Pie recipes - the information surrounding that, I think, is possibly on the forum here too somewhere, but I can’t see it at the moment. Anyhow the research was done before I had ever tried onion powder (or onion salt) in my own recipes around at the time and I recall Dustin refuted the evidence I had gathered from the chicken pot pie research and said to me words to the effect of ‘There’s no onion powder in the recipe, you only have to try adding it to a Recipe to see its taste doesn’t fit’. Probably not his exact words, but it was along those lines.
I recall the chat around at the time was some thought that the Colonel might have originally flavoured his oil by frying onions in it - you may recall the photo of the Colonel sipping/tasting something from his pot (his gravy I think) but some thought it was his cooking oil and that added to the speculation about fried onions etc.
Now I can’t recall the recipes I was using at the time, but it was one around the time this forum began - anyhow long story short I went with the evidence seen and tried both Onion powder and Onion Salt in a few recipes and each time my thoughts (honestly) back then, were that the onion powder, or onion salt, introduced a taste that I had never experienced in KFC-OR chicken and I eventually set the idea of onion aside, as I just couldn’t make it work for me and my memory-taste of KFC. Also now, in my humble opinion, I definitely do not get the taste of onion in todays KFC-OR chicken. But I guess we each have different opinions on what we think we can taste, but for me it just didn’t/doesn’t work, not at any level. It’s not an ingredient I would choose to include in my own recipes, based on the experience and flavour during the research back in those earlier days.
Just to also add, that Mark and Dustin undoubtedly tried these seasonings in their own recipes whilst research was ongoing at TCK, but both chose to exclude it from their later recipes, as I recall, long before I set it aside.
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Post by willy on Nov 8, 2021 21:50:18 GMT
Onion can not be detected in my chili seasoning, and I use quite a bit. I haven't used onion at all up to this point because of the information circulating at that time as explained by Ken. But onion simply can blend with the proper ingredients to give a "savory" flavor to any recipe. It is probably the most used ingredient in most of the World's known cooking techniques.
So here is a snide remark. (excluding the idea that if it ain't in 99X, it can't be in KFC). Let's say onion was used in the wrong combination of elements, so it must be excluded completely. Don't use it with different combinations or it could prove someone wrong. Being right is all that matters in this world.
‘There’s no onion powder in the recipe, you only have to try adding it to a Recipe to see its taste doesn’t fit’. Just an opinion, folks. I have saved the comments made by many members of TCK, including many now on this forum, about how vanilla was the key ingredient to the OR. Many followed, then failing to detect the "note", gave up the search. This is about when I entered the scene. If you ain't cookin', you ain't lookin".
Personally, onion can not ruin a recipe. It can enhance a recipe, but not ruin it. This is misinformation to keep anyone from trying it. Why? If someone has a recipe that is "pert near" perfect, then forget onion. Otherwise, let the experiments begin and/or continue.
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Post by kgp on Nov 9, 2021 2:33:09 GMT
You can add onion powder until your recipe taste like onions. Just like any herbs or spice don't make it overwhelming. Back it off at the right amount.
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Post by kgp on Nov 9, 2021 2:35:53 GMT
Marion-Kay owner said:
"You need the basics. You need garlic, onion and pepper in just about any blend you do." "They're in most things, so various combinations of those can create a world of difference."
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Post by willy on Dec 6, 2021 0:22:54 GMT
I have two onion recipes drawn up, mixed, and are melding. They are basically the same (except for two ingredients), but in different amounts. It will take me a while to test both since I live alone and can't eat that much chicken. I have three or four drawn up which I will test this winter. I expect this to be my last series of recipes. This supply chain crisis has temporarily halted my import of ingredients, as in Aromat.
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