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Post by ThePieMan on Jun 4, 2019 12:43:04 GMT
kgp, these are all fair comments, and historical context. No one needs to break the law, these days to obtain the KFC Corp mix(es) they're all over the web now. Analysing them doesn't reveal much any more, might have in the past, but not now, not by my forays thus far. I still have to put the fine bits of mix under a high powered microscope but my eyes are not what they used to be. Seems like this search keeps sending people blind It seems that having a bag of the stuff is of no practical help anyway. As for the Corp. giving a damn? I don't think they don't but maintain a healthy interest in case anyone gets too noisy about having solved the mystery, and then buy the silence if it cuts to close to home. ( That's how I'm gonna make my money! Bwaaaa Haaaa Haaa Haaaaaa! ) No the biggest issue today is the dwindling heads that actually remember the O.R. of old and are still willing to communicate it. The loss of that knowledge base will free up the Corp. to do whatever the B.W like with the recipe as there will be no one left, alive, to say any different. Then the research is moot, and the point is lost.
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Post by willy on Jun 4, 2019 13:06:33 GMT
Thank goodness I tasted KFC many times prior to 1964. It is my guiding light. Fennel....... # 1 for sausage.
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Post by batelmagdie on Jun 4, 2019 14:35:36 GMT
No , i mean fennel are in .
as well as sage savory thyme marjoram .
and smoke flavour .
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Post by kgp on Jun 4, 2019 14:37:23 GMT
No one needs to break the law, these days to obtain the KFC Corp mix(es) they're all over the web now. As for the Corp. giving a damn? I don't think they don't but maintain a healthy interest in case anyone gets too noisy about having solved the mystery, and then buy the silence if it cuts to close to home. ( That's how I'm gonna make my money! Bwaaaa Haaaa Haaa Haaaaaa! ) Most of the bags sold on the Internet are imposters even if they say KFC. China is great at making those things up. The real ones which I believe are very few are stolen property. You can never know what you're going to get. Would you eat it? Be careful. As far as KFC paying you hush money if you came up with the real recipe by making it yourself, fat chance of that happening. They will be silent. You can dream though. KFC makes their money not just by the recipe. They have all the tools we don't have for the infrastructure to make products that sell worldwide. Look at it like this. You can make a great hamburger at home right? Then why do you still buy fast food burgers? There is no We and Them war. I see a few KFC's franchises closing in my area. They need to concentrate on bringing back what worked 50+ years ago. Cut prices, bring back quality and commercials that have CHS nostalgia. If they do so they might be able to stay in business another 50+ years. Can you imagine if they aired some of the old commercials today? That would light a fire.
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Post by ThePieMan on Jun 4, 2019 15:40:04 GMT
Pay me hush money? Don't be silly. You've misinterpreted sarcastic humour as ambition. Of course. KFC makes their money by selling exclusive franchises. They buy real estate and then plaster over it the semblance of a fried chicken restaurant system. But, let's not go there. Of course there is no "War" ... unless its regime change machinations in Venezuela and Iran, or Iraq and Afghanistan, illegally in Syria, assassinations in Libya, and whatever is necessary to support Israel's various occupations and incursions, or the Saudi effort to quell public outrage about their invasion of the Yemen, etc. ad inf. ... but that global politics and in the world of fried chicken, it doesn't mean diddly squat. There is no us and them, but still there is the palpable feeling that the Corp. doesn't want us to thrive, survive, breed, or succeed.
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Post by kgp on Jun 4, 2019 15:55:00 GMT
I didn't "misinterpreted sarcastic humour as ambition" that is why I humorously said hush money and said you can dream.I never cared for what people motives are. It's none of my business. What they do or don't is for them to decide. I only have myself to question.
As far as "War" the things your mentioned are outside of my understanding since it's not about a chicken coating.
"but still there is the palpable feeling that the Corp. doesn't want us to thrive, survive, breed, or succeed."
Never going to happen TPM. They don't even know we exist. "Breed", now that is funny.
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Post by nitebeat on Jun 4, 2019 19:36:31 GMT
The Recipe has a legal status of a trade secret, that carries a legal obligation on the owner of the trade secret to take all reasonable steps to protect the secret, if they fail they can loose the trade secret status.
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Post by nitebeat on Jun 4, 2019 20:02:49 GMT
The Recipe has a legal status of a trade secret, that carries a legal obligation on the owner of the trade secret to take all reasonable steps to protect the secret, if they fail they can loose the trade secret status. It true value for kfc is the advertising value, not so much the recipe itself.
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Post by kgp on Jun 4, 2019 20:29:18 GMT
The Recipe has a legal status of a trade secret, that carries a legal obligation on the owner of the trade secret to take all reasonable steps to protect the secret, if they fail they can loose the trade secret status. It true value for kfc is the advertising value, not so much the recipe itself. I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying. But to go one further, the KFC bag of O.R. while it is in the possession of a franchisee, it is not to be sold, given away, or examined by a nonKFC franchisee. I don't know what the consequences of doing such a thing would be. Has anyone come across something in the news about that happening? What action was taken?
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Post by willy on Jun 4, 2019 23:15:09 GMT
The bags I'm acquainted with are the real McCoys. 1998, 2016 and 2018. Doesn't matter as they do not contain the OR.
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Post by Randie on Jun 4, 2019 23:36:19 GMT
Greetings!
While I respect most deeply held religious views and can tolerate opposing political opinions (I love a good debate), I think we should all start cooking up a batch of chicken!
I am very interested in the Saudi Arabian chicken chain previously mentioned. Is it just really good chicken, or does it have that "note" we find in KFC?
I went back to review the only recipe that ever gave me a hint of the "note". It was DT-20 with tarragon (not thyme as I previously mentioned) and nutmeg. It was just too weak and only seemed to be present on the wings (most surface/coating to meat ratio). So I think I'm going to give DT-20 another try with some serious zinging (maybe 20-25% more). If over seasoning can bring out the "note", then it will be easy to dial it back to fit the desired weights championed by Ken.
It would be nice to have a list of all the recipes that have that are the closest to the O.R. Can anyone point to a recipe on this site where they honestly found the "note"? If so, perhaps some the recipes share the ingredients that, when combined, give us that great KFC aroma and taste.
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Post by mpmn04 on Jun 5, 2019 0:11:12 GMT
These are the recipes that imo contain "the note" the strongest yet, Kens v7 & Janes. If you can, after a scoff save at least 1 piece to try the next day. The "note" intensifies and really stands out. I pressure fry using a chicken bucket. It makes a big difference compared to open pot deep frying.
Mike
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Post by batelmagdie on Jun 5, 2019 1:00:30 GMT
Greetings! While I respect most deeply held religious views and can tolerate opposing political opinions (I love a good debate), I think we should all start cooking up a batch of chicken! I am very interested in the Saudi Arabian chicken chain previously mentioned. Is it just really good chicken, or does it have that "note" we find in KFC? I went back to review the only recipe that ever gave me a hint of the "note". It was DT-20 with tarragon (not thyme as I previously mentioned) and nutmeg. It was just too weak and only seemed to be present on the wings (most surface/coating to meat ratio). So I think I'm going to give DT-20 another try with some serious zinging (maybe 20-25% more). If over seasoning can bring out the "note", then it will be easy to dial it back to fit the desired weights championed by Ken. It would be nice to have a list of all the recipes that have that are the closest to the O.R. Can anyone point to a recipe on this site where they honestly found the "note"? If so, perhaps some the recipes share the ingredients that, when combined, give us that great KFC aroma and taste. No randie sadly it doesnot have the note . However it has its unique flavor . However people in Saudi arabia and in egypt who tasted albaik saudian fried chicken , they like albaik over kfc . I suggested to a friend that i will cook him a similar to kfc chicken . He said i prefer albaik . But they haven't tasted the old KFC . So theyrn't the ones to blame .
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Post by ThePieMan on Jun 5, 2019 11:17:23 GMT
It would be nice to have a list of all the recipes that have that are the closest to the O.R. Can anyone point to a recipe on this site where they honestly found the "note"? Here's the list. kfc11.proboards.com/post/1747
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Post by ThePieMan on Jun 5, 2019 11:17:49 GMT
2nd page of this very thread
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