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Post by kgp on Jun 27, 2019 14:22:48 GMT
In summary:
KFC tasted the best and 99x smells like it.
Claudia Sanders Dinner House chicken was flavorless compared to KFC.
Lee's Famous Chicken was good, has a different flavor then KFC. KFC is better.
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Post by ThePieMan on Jul 3, 2019 19:40:16 GMT
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Post by ThePieMan on Jul 3, 2019 20:04:39 GMT
Ok, I watched the rest of the video, and looked at the description, which includes not TC34D that was on the screen, but Ken's V7. Still, well done Ken for getting a guernsey in the first taste test AND to get top billing for the basis of their own further researches , built upon your own. Great stuff, someone taking the work of this forum absolutely seriously. I think they have to work on their taste testing and discernment of flavours, but hey! they're out there giving it a damned good go. - Cheers Ken, and well done on all your good work, great recognition and kudos to you.
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Post by Ken_Griffiths on Jul 3, 2019 21:44:04 GMT
TPM,
We all just tend to go where the evidence takes us. It’s right though to sometimes step back and let others take the lead and inspire each and everyone of us with their own ideas and thoughts. I’m sure this forum has the members and expertise to get close to the real answer.
I’m not so sure it’s all about the 11 herbs and spices, but maybe some other unmentioned 'element' that we might be missing in our ongoing research, who knows?
It would be nice to just get a decent breakthrough about the original recipe, that lights the spark to enthuse us all... I live in hope.
I better just say, for the record, that I had no input at all into the TC34D recipe, but I do know that Mark (TC) went on after that with his research and was looking at recipes by Eula Gordon and possible other commercial seasonings and elements held outside the 100lb Barrel 'Basic Formula’, but he never got round to publishing his research before the TCK forum closed down and he suddenly disappeared. I wonder where he is now?
Anyhow the (re)search goes on.
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Post by willy on Jul 4, 2019 4:00:18 GMT
Just goes to show that our research has not been in vain. It's that last variable that we've all been looking for. Congratulations Ken.
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Post by kgp on Jul 4, 2019 10:25:31 GMT
For those thinking that Glen will find the KFC recipe they are going to be disappointed. I will predict they will just add more white pepper and call it a day. When they compared KFC to 99x they said almost but not as much white pepper as KFC. This is an easy fix just add more 99x. Will you then get KFC flavor? No you will not.
Ken's recipe stumped them. She said close but not as peppery. He said a spice in Ken's which is all spice and cloves which he says is not in KFC. She is not sure. Funny when they were first speaking about Ken's recipe that had a picture of TCK with vanilla. Will anyone correct them on that? Why didn't he make the vanilla recipe?
The Ledington was not even close. KFC is much more then just about pepper. It has a distinctive flavor. As you know things like cloves, nutmeg, all spice etc. bring out a more richness of flavor than just adding more white pepper. Will they find what that is? I doubt it. They are going to make "pepper chicken" which it not KFC. CHS said that his seasoning compliments the chicken. I watched many of Glen's video. He tries very hard and does things the correct way but even he says he flops. Check out his soda videos. His face turned red when he spoke about him cracking the secret to the KFC recipe. Surely he has his doubts. Guys stay on track with your herbs and spices swapping some out for others. We already have a recipe that has not been tried yet. |
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Post by 2WhlWzrd on Jul 4, 2019 10:32:30 GMT
I'm making popcorn chicken for the next episode.
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Post by kgp on Jul 4, 2019 10:42:03 GMT
I'm making popcorn chicken for the next episode. I'm making popcorn. |
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Post by willy on Jul 4, 2019 16:12:23 GMT
Just want to remind all that I have maintained for some time that KFC may have used Stange's Pepperall. If you assume they did, then when did they do so, and how much more pepper should be used to match that profile? The same question can be applied to other ingredients in the OR. In every video I've seen, including this recent one, the mix is GREY. All of my KFC seasoning bag mixes (except the 2018 which I haven't opened) are grey. No browns, no greens, not yellows, just pepper and a material that looks and feels like corn starch. I isolated the black specs in the 1998 KFC seasoning, and it wasn't black pepper. It was a tasteless type of ash, I believe was put there for show.
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Post by kgp on Jul 4, 2019 22:08:36 GMT
It was a tasteless type of ash, I believe was put there for show. Pure fiction. Every herb or spice that KFC puts in their blend is to make flavor never for show. They don't spin their wheels for nothing. Sure, money is important in any business but never to undermine the business. |
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Post by willy on Jul 5, 2019 3:28:51 GMT
"pure fiction". Translated: You are a liar. You did not explore that 1998 KFC seasoning bag. I suppose you have explored yours?
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Post by ThePieMan on Jul 5, 2019 7:39:22 GMT
"pure fiction". Translated: You are a liar. Stop! Take a deep breath and step down from that soapbox. " pure fiction" does not mean " You are a liar" This is the biggest problem I have with the arguments here.  " pure fiction" means that kgp believes that this STATEMENT, " It was a tasteless type of ash, I believe was put there for show." is not true. " pure fiction" is a comment ON the statement. It is NOT a direct character assessment of you, Willy. Your INTERPRETATION, " You are a liar" completely misrepresents what has been writ. Grrrrr... jm2cw TPM |
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Post by kgp on Jul 5, 2019 8:26:11 GMT
TPM that is exactly my point. His conclusion is incorrect. That is why I backed it up with basically saying KFC would not do that and isolated his comment from the rest. I have no way to know if he has a 1998 spice bag or not. It doesn't matter. I'm assuming he does. That is why I don't even question that.
Then he says "You did not explore that 1998 KFC seasoning bag. I suppose you have explored yours?"
He damn well knows I don't. This is the ploy people use when they want to elevate themselves above others. They know more than you. Get it? I see this over and over again in ChickenLand. Ellsworth did this all the time.
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Post by nitebeat on Jul 5, 2019 12:21:42 GMT
Seems yet again that more time is spent (wasted) on discrediting, the work of others that are not in the "club" , reminds me of TCK ..... a lot.
I believe Willy when he sez he’s got a 98’ mix, furthermore I believe he’s examined the contents, wouldn’t we all ?
One of the easiest things to examine is the black lumps of ‘pepper’ , or so we all thought.
Sieve a small portion of mix, the black clumps remain, crush them and taste them ..... surprisingly they are tasteless.
Could be black msg .... lol.
Seems it’s for show, early kfc used cracked pepper, today it seems kfc no longer does, maybe it uses extracts oleoresins, the black clumps are not just for show, they are designed to deceive customers that natural black cracked pepper is used, just as it used to be?
TPM seems to saying, don’t take it personal, kgp is critical of the statement not the person...
Then kgp admits he hasn’t Got a kfc spice bag.... well you (members of this forum) criticised Willy for not sharing information a little while back, when he does share information, information you don’t seem to have access too as you don’t have a sample, you call him a know it all, comparing him to ellsworth.
What’s the problem here someone offers you new information on the OR you don’t have and you criticise him, is it he’s come up with the info and he’s not in your little club, or is it the information doesn’t fit your fixed view of CHS OR, well what is it?
Has anyone even bothered to make any of Willy’s recipes he’s posted yet, haven’t seen any reviews yet?
Again is it a case of don’t take him seriously, he’s not in the club, doesn’t fit your comfort zone.
You claim your worried may be close to the recipe, but may not share.
From what I’ve seen CHS reincarnate could post his Recipe on here and you would abuse him and you be still looking years from now because you wouldn’t bother mixing it up and trying it.
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Post by kgp on Jul 5, 2019 12:31:06 GMT
"Could be black msg .... lol."
That says it all.
NB, I'm not part of the club. I don't have a 1998 KFC spice bag.
When Willy gets permission to post his latest and greatest recipe I will try it. Fair?
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